Saturday, April 23, 2022

The Ridiculousness Of The Roman Catholic Eucharist

"But seeing, for the frequency of pretending the change of nature in their consecrations, it cannot be esteemed a work extraordinary, it is no other than a conjuration or incantation, whereby they would have men to believe an alteration of nature that is not, contrary to the testimony of man’s sight and of all the rest of his senses. As for example, when the priest, instead of consecrating bread and wine to God’s peculiar service in the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper (which is but a separation of it from the common use to signify, that is, to put men in mind of, their redemption by the Passion of Christ, whose body was broken and blood shed upon the cross for our transgressions), pretends that by saying of the words of our Saviour, “This is my body,” and “This is my blood,” the nature of bread is no more there, but his very body; notwithstanding there appeareth not to the sight or other sense of the receiver anything that appeared not before the consecration. The Egyptian conjurers, that are said to have turned their rods to serpents, and the water into blood, are thought but to have deluded the senses of the spectators by a false show of things, yet are esteemed enchanters. But what should we have thought of them if there had appeared in their rods nothing like a serpent, and in the water enchanted nothing like blood, nor like anything else but water, but that they had faced down the king, that they were serpents that looked like rods, and that it was blood that seemed water? That had been both enchantment and lying. And yet in this daily act of the priest, they do the very same, by turning the holy words into the manner of a charm, which produceth nothing new to the sense; but they face us down, that it hath turned the bread into a man; nay, more, into a God; and require men to worship it as if it were our Saviour himself present, God and Man, and thereby to commit most gross idolatry. For if it be enough to excuse it of idolatry to say it is no more bread, but God; why should not the same excuse serve the Egyptians, in case they had the faces to say the leeks and onions they worshipped were not very leeks and onions, but a divinity under their species or likeness? The words, “This is my body,” are equivalent to these, “This signifies, or represents, my body”; and it is an ordinary figure of speech: but to take it literally is an abuse; nor, though so taken, can it extend any further than to the bread which Christ himself with his own hands consecrated. For he never said that of what bread soever any priest whatsoever should say, “This is my body,” or “This is Christ’s body,” the same should presently be transubstantiated."

Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan, Of the Kingdom of Darkness (Chap. XLVI)


eucharist angel said...

Yes, Catholicism is unreasonable to demand literal blood in the cup at the Last Supper. Paul even compares the “cup of the Lord” with the “cup of demons” to make a point in 1 Cor 10:21. Since demons lack blood, both cups must be symbolic. That being so, the idolatrous homage paid to the Eucharist must be repented of, or hell awaits.

Regarding "This is my body"....when we compare Scripture with Scripture (1 Cor 2:13) we must conclude the statement is being used symbolically. For we are specifically told in Galatians 4 that it is symbolic to understand “This Hagar IS Mount Sinai” as a covenant, and “This IS Jerusalem” being equally symbolic in Ezekiel 5.
God told Ezekiel to shave his hair and to weigh it on scales into thirds, then to burn a third, hack at a third with a sword, and then scatter a third in the wind. He is then told, “This IS Jerusalem”. Obviously, God did not miraculously transform Ezekiel’s hair into the city of Jerusalem! He did not NEED to say that it represents Jerusalem as the Pope thinks Jesus was obligated to say at the Last Supper. The cut hair was a metaphor to represent his coming judgment on the city, as were bread and wine metaphors for his life and death.
Again, Catholics know full well that pointing to a black dot on a map and saying, “This is New York”, does not mean that the black dot is the city of New York. The dot REPRESENTS the city! Why then will they not allow the same logic when Jesus says, “This is my body”?

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